Techno out of Detroit saw a kind of rejoinder in sound in Chicago's house music, which often utilized diva-esque vocals, busy drum machines, four on the floor beats and other big and pop-influenced sounds to make a large impact in clubs across the world, particularly in the early nineties and late eighties. Grunge and rock in general pushed house into the fringes for some time in America, though in Europe the genre flourished with groups like Daft Punk.